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ZMan
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 Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Dodger wrote: | That is EXACTLY why I find their Wikisposure crap so offensive - Even more so than their previous incarnation. For the life of me, I cannot understand why they haven't been sued out the wazoo - Much of what is posted on that site is unquestionably libel.
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You got to have money to sue, and the people they target, they know, don't usually have millions of dollars to sue. |
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Dodger
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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I understand that completely - That was certainly the case for many of those they targeted in their "busts" - Many of those guys were 1) young, 2) losers, and 3) not willing to suffer even more publicity and humiliation by going to court...
The difference is, many of THESE people that they are now targeting haven't actually DONE anything to warrant being plastered all over an accusatory website - Beyond voicing an opinion, signing a petition, lobbying for changes to laws, etc.
I can assure you - If someone was publicly accusing ME of being a pedophile, I would move heaven and earth and ensure whoever was responsible would end up paying my mortgage for me, plus much more... After all, that sort of false accusation has a pretty certain potential to negatively impact your life, your reputation, your income, etc. Civil courts exist to ensure such statements and accusations aren't made lightly.
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John
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| Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:22 am Post subject: |
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| One of my friends who were added to wikisposure commited suicide soon after, they posted his phone number, phone numbers to the school he went to and everything. Another friend of mine who were added there's been harrased by cops from two districts and by angry parents from all over USA. Just wanted to point this out. |
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Dodger
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| Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:20 am Post subject: |
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John - Welcome to CJ... Would it be possible for you to PM (private message) me with the details of the people you are referring to?
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tyciol
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| Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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That's an interesting explanation, but I find it rather odd, I mean I can understand walking around your house nude, but having been in the house, wouldn't you be rather aware of what is nearby (like a playground) and from what locations you were visible?
It's like, if I'm the only one home, I might go naked a little bit, but I'm not even going to do it in front of my bedroom unless the curtains are drawn, and certainly not in front of a sliding glass window.
Anyway it does sound like they didn't prove conclusively that you were doing anything. Really ridiculous laws I think. Don't even have the right to do things on your own property. People shouldn't be looking on your property anyway.
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SupremeJustice
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| Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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I was naked in front of the windows just yesterday.
With towel secured I headed for the hot from the dryer clothes in the laundry room.
As I rounded the corner of the living room, toward the laundry room, the towel fell to the floor.
Quickly grabbed it, covered myself and make fast tracks to the dryer.
Dressed in the laundry room and noticed on the way back through that oops the blinds were up in the living room.
Thank goodness that no one was looking into my home through my own windows and thought I was some sort of exhibitionist or worse.
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PJ Buster
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| Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Do it again.  
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SupremeJustice
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| Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Uh oh, was that a shutter click that I just heard? 
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Barbie Babe
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| Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| PJ Buster wrote: | | Do it again. |
Yes, please, I missed it. 
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So, you are say if I don't agree with PJ, then I'm a pedophile? Is THAT what you are saying? |
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Chrysalis
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:33 am Post subject: |
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| SupremeJustice wrote: |
Uh oh, was that a shutter click that I just heard? |
No it wasn't
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tyciol
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Now that is a more understandable scenario, a towel dropping. It's just that in the original, it didn't sound like there was any dropping, just plain naked walk-around.
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Chrysalis
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| ZMan if you just want to be left in peace then why blog about it at all?I understand being angry and having to vent but when your all over the internet it just seems like your egging people on to harass you. |
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CJ Black Widow
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Chrysalis wrote: | | ZMan if you just want to be left in peace then why blog about it at all?I understand being angry and having to vent but when your all over the internet it just seems like your egging people on to harass you. |
But if he remained silent, then some would say he must be "guilty", right?
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ZMan
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Chrysalis wrote: | | ZMan if you just want to be left in peace then why blog about it at all?I understand being angry and having to vent but when your all over the internet it just seems like your egging people on to harass you. |
I speak out because of the BS laws. I speak out because they create laws which are ex post facto laws, and violate due process of law, which is a direct violation of the Constitution.
I speak out, with the hopes of others speaking out, to get these laws changed.
Like I said, when I plead guilty, the registry was not even created, it wasn't even in 1996 when they killed my 1st offender status and convicted me, but as soon as they created it, bam, I now had to be on the registry and they basically violated my contract I signed when I admitted guilt.
Like I've said before, I am all for punishing people who break the law, but you cannot keep changing the rules of the game anytime you feel like it.
If they would've passed the law, and not back dated it, but made it from July 1st, 2006 when it became law, and people convicted after that point had to face the new laws, I would not be saying anything. But they back dated the laws back to July 1st, 1996 and everyone from that point on has to register, and they are even trying to get people before that to register as well, which is wrong, violates the Constitution, and instead of me being on the registry for 10 years, like I was told, now I'm told I'll be on it for life. And I seriously doubt I'll be able to get a job or anything with this label on me.
Plus I speak out because celebrities, cops, rich people, get slapped on the wrist, while poor people who are nobodies, get the book thrown at them, forced to pay registration fees, and if they cannot, they go back to prison, which is extortion the last time I checked. We are suppose to be a country with equal justice for all, not for those who are rich or famous.
If I do not speak out, then who will? I hope I empower others to speak out, so we can do something about these laws.
People need to open their eyes, look around, they are wiping out peoples rights left and right, and nobody is paying attention.... Eventually your rights will be eroded, then you will be speaking out as well...
http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2007/04/my-thoughts-sex-offender-law-issues.html
When an ex-offender is forced to move from his/her home, thus having to sell it, cannot find another home within the law due to the residency "buffer" zones, get fired from their jobs due to being on the registry, cannot find a new job due to being on the registry, their husband/wife lose their jobs due to a significant other being on the registry, their children lose their friends and are harassed and bullied in school due to a family member being on the registry, thus destroying the children's lives, ex-offenders are forced into homelessness and to live under bridges, harassed by police, neighbors and probation/parole officers, have to wear "I'm a sex offender T-shirt" or have a neon green license plate on ALL their cars, have "sex offender" on their drivers license and forced to renew their licenses every year, forced from shelters during tornadoes or hurricanes, cannot give blood at some places due to being discriminated against for being on the sex offender registry, denied housing due to being on the registry, signs placed in their yards inviting harassment and ridicule from the neighbors, forced to move when the neighbors start picketing outside the ex-offenders home, the list is endless.
I THINK THIS IS CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT, BEYOND THE EXTREME! |
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CJ Black Widow
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| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Let me clarify...I know zman said he was guilty but he has every right to do what it takes to stop the harassment of those who have paid their debt.
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